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Latest campaigning news - drug driving Options
NRAS-Emma
#1 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:51:32 AM Quote
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Dear all,

In the Queen’s Speech on 09 May 2012, the UK Government announced it would be bringing forward a Bill primarily to establish a new National Crime Agency to tackle serious and organised crime and to strengthen border security. The Bill also seeks to reform the courts and tribunals service and to make provisions about drugs and driving. We believe the section on drug driving could have a significant, unforeseen impact on patients with RA that are taking long-term medication to manage their chronic pain. As a result, NRAS is now lobbying for improvements to the Bill. The new legislation will be applicable to England, Scotland and Wales.

For more information, see our latest campaigns here: Campaigns - Drug Driving

At the bottom of the article it lists the two ways in which you can help - by either signing our e-petition or signing up to our new e-campaigis bulletin.

Many thanks

Emma

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sylviax
#2 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 1:30:07 PM Quote
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Seems a very reasonable request - I've signed the petition and put a link on my FB page and I'll persuade (ie insist) that my over-18 kids sign up too! Strength in numbers.

Thanks - Sylvia xx
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dorat
#3 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 4:25:20 PM Quote
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Surely no-one should drive under the influence of drugs, prescription or otherwise?
The effects of prescription painkillers on a person's ability to drive can be just as devastating as the effects of illegal drugs.

Doreen xx
LynW
#4 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 6:06:27 PM Quote
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Many of 'our' medicines do say we should not drive or operate machinery whilst taking, this not only applies to pain relief but also things like NSAIDS, large dose steroids, some anti-tnf/biologics when first administered and others. Even meds such as Hydroxychloroquine can, in some people, cause adverse brain activity and affect driving competence.

I agree with Doreen on this; if it's not safe to drive because of the drug's effect on the body/brain then it doesn't matter whether it's a prescription medication or an illegal substance. Punishments should be meted out accordingly NOT on whether it's okay to take it because you have RA and therefore 'outside' the law!!

If people are going to drive having taken any drugs they should take sole responsibility for outcomes that arise as a result of doing so. One petition my name won't be going on!

Lyn

My son, Ian, completed the BUPA Great North Run on 15th September running for the National Rheumatoid Arthritis Society (NRAS). You can read his story at http://www.justgiving.com/ianlukewilson

dorat
#5 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 6:49:22 PM Quote
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I agree with you Lyn, I won't sign it either, at least not until I've studied it a bit more.

Doreen xx
Naomi1
#6 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2012 12:19:25 AM Quote
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This is a difficult one. I'm not going to sign at the moment as I need more time to consider this. I totally agree that people who's driving skills are adversely affected by any type of drug shouldn't drive. However, I don't think that simply having drugs in your system should be enough to prevent someone from driving and therefore limit their independence. Drugs affect everyone differently and different people on the same drug combinations will react differently. I choose not to drive myself as I don't feel safe behind the wheel due to numbness in my hands and feet. However some people with RA (and other painful conditions) are taking lots of different medicines including strong painkillers and yet they are perfectly safe behind the wheel. One problem is knowing whether our judgements about our competence are valid. Maybe there should be access to some kind of competence test of coordination and reaction times etc that would give an objective measure of driving competence.
Naomi.
sylviax
#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:53:20 AM Quote
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As I understand it the amendment to the wording does not seek to put RA sufferers outside the law, but just to safeguard them so that they have a slightly earlier opportunity to put their case that the drugs in question are taken as prescribed. At present the wording is such that they would have to go to court with all the stress and costs associated.

Obviously if the person has been wilfully driving whilst not safe to do so and has caused an accident then that is clearly grounds for prosecution. However, if we see a situation where somebody is pulled over for something very minor and roadside tests indicate that they have levels of drugs in their system there should be safeguards in place to ensure that they can explain that these are prescribed medication before it goes all the way to court - in the case of drink driving, people are often pulled in for things as minor as faulty brake lights or driving unduly cautiously and that is the pretext for a breath test. But obviously with alcohol there is no excuse and it is a simple decision - if you're over the limit then you're breaking the law and get prosecuted, regardless of whether the actual driving offense is trivial or serious.

I don't know how the police will conduct tests for drugs, but if it is similar to that for alcohol then there should be extra safeguards to handle these types of issues. I know from my own personal experience that I am usually perfectly safe to drive even though I take strong painkillers all the time, but tiredness can be an issue for me and each driver has a personal resposibility to avoid driving if they are so unwell that it makes them unsafe. However, I'm not such a perfect driver that I don't make occasional mistakes and I have been pulled over in the past - most recently for speeding and I don't mean going mad, just a few mph over the 30 limit and was asked if I'd been drinking and I could truthfully say "No", and was given a warning. But if I'd been asked if I'd taken any drugs then I would've had to say "yes" and where would that have gone???.

It would be devastating to me if I was unable to drive for fear of being pulled over and prosecuted for taking my prescribed meds. So until the actual testing process becomes clearer I would welcome having some extra safeguards in place and I have signed the petition.

I feel reassured that the NRAS are looking into this issue on my behalf and welcome every reasonable opportunity to raise the profile of RA at government level

Sylvia xx
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Naomi1
#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:41:05 PM Quote
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You've made some excellent points there Sylvia. Thanks for clarifying a lot of things. I'm erring towards signing now, but still considering things. I'm such a procrastinator!
sylviax
#9 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 8:30:18 AM Quote
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THanks Naomi - this RA has definitely made me more militant as I realise that people who make decisions for us don't always understand the full picture. I had no idea at all of the things that bother people with disability or limited function until I found myself in that position, and there are times when we need to speak up for the "moderate viewpoint" just so it isn't forgotten or overlooked.
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